Okay, so since FreeBSD 10.0 has been released, we decided to analyze what the FreeBSD project has done and report new features. All we found was a system that was more unusable then it’s earlier versions.
The hardware we used was a ThinkPad T510 with the following specs:
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-620M, Dual-core, 2.66GHz
RAM: 8GB PC3-10666(1333Mhz)
Hard Drive: 250GB 5400rpm 2.5″ SATA HDD
Graphics Processor: Intel HD Graphics
Ethernet: Intel Gigabit Ethernet
Wireless: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200
Sound Card: Intel HD Audio
We first downloaded the DVD ISO image called “FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso”, burned it to a DVD, boot from it and encountered the first big change with FreeBSD 10. The speed. It is much slower then previous versions. A quick skim through of dmesg reveals why:
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FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE #0 r260789: thu Jan 16 22.34.59 UTC 2014
root@snap.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 3.3 (tags/RELEASE_33/final 183502) 20130610
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Yes stock versions of FreeBSD are now compiled with CLANG not GCC. As of 2014, CLANG still produces vastly inferior binaries compared to GCC. These CLANG binaries have problems with speed, size and memory consumption. They are also notorious for memory leaks. Compiling FreeBSD with clang has made FreeBSD slower then before which shows just how much BSD developers are willing to sacrifice usability and performance for the sake of being more proprietary friendly.
With the kernel fully booted and the slow and obsolete BSD init finally activating all required services, we started the installation and ran into the next big change. Arrow keys do not work anymore. It is unknown whether this is the case with our hardware or a global problem but one thing we do know is that the arrows keys worked when we were assessing FreeBSD 9.1 on this same laptop. Luckily for us, the other keys were still functioning as they should and thus the installation was continued. During the installation, we chose to use the ZFS on root option which was not present in the 9.x installers. It was a decision that would be regret later as file operations of every type (even simple ones) would use huge quantities of RAM and CPU. The installation on the whole went smoothly but took much longer then previous versions.
Finally with the installation done, we now boot from the hard drive and encounter probably the biggest change to FreeBSD 10.0. Booting from the hard drive is now far slower then booting from the CD. The boot loader and kernel are both so slow with the kernel being the worst. The computer screen spent 2 minutes on the following line:
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/boot/kernel/kernel text=0xed9008 data=…
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So it now takes 2 minutes to boot just the FreeBSD kernel which makes you wonder what’s the blood alcohol level of the FreeBSD developers when they created this crap (By the way, it’s worth nothing that the majority of funding received by the FreeBSD project goes into buy beer for the developers). We also believe that this is a side effect of building the kernel and userland with clang.
With the OS fully booted, we can now take a look at some the so called “new” features. First and foremost intel wireless iwn0 device nodes now disappears after 5 minutes of booting so wireless is useless. And there’s still old, vulnerable and useless software like SendMail still included in the base system. PKGNG is still slow and terrible.
KMS on BSD: Failure of Epic Proportions
If you are expecting something pleasant when using KMS on FreeBSD, you can forget about it because all you get is misery. If you are using a graphics card in which supports KMS on FreeBSD (now Intel and AMD), versions of Xorg obtained from precompiled packages don’t work anymore. You now have to add the following to /etc/make.conf:
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WITH_NEW_XORG=yes
WITH_KMS=yes
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And then compile all of Xorg and Xorg’s dependencies from ports. To reduce the suffering of others, we recommend doing a:
# pkg install gcc48
And adding the following extra lines to /etc/make.conf:
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CC=gcc48
CXX=g++48
CPP=cpp48
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Using our machine, it took us nearly 20 hours to build Xorg. Once Xorg has been build, the troubles are only just beginning. When started, Xorg is far slower then it was without KMS. Wost still is that the virtual consoles are no longer functional when the KMS module is loaded and unloading the KMS resulted in the crash of the entire system. The system was so unbearable and unusable with Xorg that we had to disable it permanently.
This just shows us how much BSD developers are trying to force users away from FOSS respecting GPU manufacturers like Intel and AMD and instead make them use drivers from proprietary terrorists like NVidia.
BHyVe: Too Little too Late
Now for the feature that is so big in FreeBSD 10.0 because BSD lacked in that area for more then 10 years. Virtualization. In FreeBSD this now finally being done with the BSD Hypervisor. Stupidly called BhyVe or Bhyve. Bhyve is a type-2 hypervisor that tries to match Xen and KVM that was created for Linux near the begin of the 2000s. Our assessment of Bhyve shows that that is nothing new to it and has virtually no potential to be on par with KVM or Xen in Linux.
One of the worst problem with Bhyve is that you have to set it up BSD style (manual edit config files and reboot) which everyone knows is time consuming, tedious and prone to errors. We demonstrated this by doing an example.
First, search for documentation. Bhyve documentation is a mess not understandable. Next, you have to add the right configuration lines to both /etc/rc.conf and /boot/loader.conf.
/etc/rc.conf
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ifconfig_vnet0=”DHCP”
zfs_enable=”YES”
linux_enable=”YES”
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/boot/loader.conf
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virto_load=”YES”
if_vnet_load=”YES”
virto_pci_load=”YES”
virto_blk_load=”YES”
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And then reboot and wait for 3o minutes. By the way, you have to create both /etc/rc.conf and /boot/loader.conf as they do not exists by default.
You can see the difference here between Linux and BSD. Linux with KVM or Xen only requires loading up a kernel module and the system is set to vitalize. In FreeBSD, you have to jump through hoops and into crap to do the same thing.
Once system has finished rebooting, you have to load up not one but tree kernel modules: vmm, if_tap and if_bridge and manually create network interfaces for the virtual machines:
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ifconfig tap0 create
ifconfig bridge0 create
ifconfig bridge0 addm em0 addm tap0 up
ifconfig tap0 up
sysctl net.link.tap.up_on_open=1
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Once again, you can see the difference from Linux. In Linux the network interfaces are created automatically. In BSD you create them by yourself.
By this time keep many knives and cutting weapons far from yourself because you will now be having the urge to harm yourself (Serious).
Download another Freebsd ISO and create a disk image by typing into the same directory:
# truncate -s <size> <disk-image>
Now here’s where the half brain creator’s of Bhyve admit that the pile of crap they created is unusable so they created a script that would make this easier. Copy the script to the same directory as the disk and ISO images. The shell script is located at /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh. Now edit that shell script:
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DEFAULT_MEMSIZE=512M
DEFAULT_CPUS=2
DEFAULT_VIRTIO_DISK=”<change to your disk image>”
DEFAULT_ISOFILE=”<ISO image>”
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Now you finally start virtual machine.
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sh ./<shell script> -i -I <ISO images>
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And see your system slow down by a 1000 times
We tried out these instructions and got one FreeBSD virtual machine to boot after 10 hours (just pointless). By contrast, KVM in Linux took only 30 minutes. Other problems with Bhyve are:
-Can only work on Intel i5 and i7 CPUs
-No AMD support
-No ARM support
-Can only run FreeBSD as a guest
-Huge resource consumption
-Virtual machines require constant attention
-Adjustments are very manual, tedious and time consuming
So as you can see, Bhyve just isn’t fit for use in the real world as each virtual machine takes would unnecessary amounts of work and hours to setup. Bhyve is just simply uncompetitive with Linux KVM or Xen in the area of virtualization. The only positive thing about Bhyve is that it was introduced in a BSD operating system but in terms of it’s virtualizing capabilities and ease of setup, it is just pure bullshit incapable of rapid deployment.
Conclusion
So the sum up everything, FreeBSD 10.0:
-Is much slower
-Xorg is noew virtually unusable except with NVidia
-Intel wifi deos not work anymore
-Bhyve is usless, and not production ready.
Once again: kill yourself.
What a charm you are. You dont cant even make a technical statement.
You really seem to like this blog. You are here, every day, trying to brighten your sad little life with something to smile about. You sit in that dark basement in your Parents house, noone likes you, but at least you are an uberhacker because you use *BSD and by telling yourself that a shellscript is Programming.
Do not reproduce. go back to youporn and fap some more.
Nice job there describing your life 😉
PS: Check my blog and see what kinds of things I program.
@serginho89
You linked your old site. LOL.
Why are you making a Gameboy emulator? There are like a million of them that are cross platform.
But it is nice to see that you use ubuntu (in the youtube Video and then there is that familiarity with the font). Seems that *BSDs are note Suitable for you 😉
PS: I also got one or two Projects. But unlike you i dont link my Private life with them. I now know that the Realboy maker is a troll, fapper and somebody who wishes that people with a differen Opinion should kill themselves. Pathetic.
Now go on fapping.
My private life? What the hell do you know about it? LOL, what a retard.
Yes, I use Ubuntu; I have nothing against Linux. I respect it and acknowledge its importance. I also use BSD. Where exactly is the problem?
You said I couldn’t program, but my emulator is made in C and Assembly. I also made a simple OS.
I think you are right, and my suggestion about suicide was too much. But I really can’t stand people that have no respect for history, for everything BSD have given to the world. If you were a Linux hacker or made some contribution at least I’d have more respect, but your are nothing else but troll that do nothing and don’t let others do. That is just pathetic, and someone has to let you know.
@serginho89
You know what a circlejerk is? 😉
@serginho89
So when you postet your totally irrelevant response when i postetd about comixwall and gnobsd you were defending diversity and freedom?
These 2 projects would have helped OpenBSDs acknowlegdement in the world (that what you clearly want).
And writing the responses you wrote are not making people like or acknowledge BSD more. Just debunk these Post here on a technical level (You claim to be a programmer and somebody who knows about these things here.). Im eagerly wating (seriously. debunk it. Make reasonable statements why what is written here is false).
This just as an addition to the circlejerk.
I’ll just quote an opinion from Phoronix: “There is so much more BS in that blog it doesnt deserve a response. Whoever wrote it really needs to get a clue (using ZFS on a laptop with a single 5200rpm drive)? LOL. The troll would have been better off with the stock UFS2 for a laptop. Amazed at the amount of cluelessness out there.”
http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?94414-FreeBSD-10-0-Has-Finally-Been-Released/page2
@serginho89
See? And now a random Reader reading the comments will read that insted of “get a life looser”.
This is a comment from me on phoronix (yes thats me. pythoner. I can make a post prooving it if needed):
http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?93946-BSD-forums-now-censoring-discussions-related-to-BSD-licence-usage&p=390925#post390925
Does it read like something i Post here? No. Because for me this here is a circlejerk.
The boottime wasnt that slow for me and Freebsd 10 runs on a Raspberry Pi, which is ARM based. But it requires too much work compared to the countless Linux Distros that run on the Pi. The Pi even got RiscOS. *BSD People just have too much time on their Hands. I have a life. Writing here is a fraction of the time that is needed to maintain a *BSD install.
BTW, How BSDs nvidia Optimus support? Ah, forgot. There is none.
Didnt read that the issue was with bhyve and not the system.
No it’s okay.
The article is about both the new system and bhyve.
If you dont like FreeBSD, it’s your choice.
You found out… the truth finder… you don´t know a shit about BSD and Programming, so what qualification you have to test what?
Keep your Linux and let us alone stupid git.
How could being posted comments on this blog if there were no BSD? Would be possible from Linux? Else, through what?
As Patrick Tracanelli said, BSD technology has so dominated the world for decades, has made each navigated our every possible each mobile phone call, every email feasible, and today still has years ahead, making available today which will probably only be used here good years.
Until mascot systems technological is innovation BSD . No would present existence plump fish and penguins, platypuses demonic, mechanical droidzinhos, if not for the Beastie. But logical that with the differential, plus more expressive and friendly, our mascot is signed only by a genius animator (John Lasseter) and copyrighted by a genius computer science (McKusick).
+1.
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